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Article: 14325 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Columbia U Computing History - New stuff
References: <bagsiu$6d7$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu> <3eccc250$1_2@news.iglou.com> <baivhm$s2o$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
From: eugene@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
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In article <baivhm$s2o$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>,
Frank da Cruz <fdc@columbia.edu> wrote:
>In article <3eccc250$1_2@news.iglou.com>,
>Douglas H. Quebbeman <dougq@iglou.com> wrote:
>: Frank da Cruz wrote:
>: > http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/norc.html
>: > NORC, the first supercomputer, and the fastest computer on
>: > earth for about ten years (1954-63).
>:
>: IIRC, the term had not been coined and in usage prior to its
>: application to the CDC 6600, generally ackowledged as the
>: first supercomputer...
Our's has been partially reassembled into the classic X-shape (s/n 1).
>: Granted, it may well have been faster in relation to the
>: other hardware of the day to deserve the moniker, but it
>: still seems somewhat revisionist to apply the term to a
>: machine that early...
>:
>That's why I said "arguably" :-) I added a note just now to the NORC
>page explaining how the term can be applied, albeit retroactively, to
>NORC. As yet, the word "supercomputer" is not defined with great
>precision. For example, one paper I read claims it should not apply
>to "one-off" computers such as NORC, others disagree.
The general consenus in certain knowledgeable circles is to simply say
that most computers in the early eras were "super" because there were so
many of these one-ofs or one-offs.
As this is a cross post, a.f.c has an occasional shill for IBM who posts
as lwinsome (and attempts to set X-no-archive) and tries to get people
to say the STRETCH was a supercomputer (sort of arguably, too).
W/o looking at the page, but seeing your original post, I'm surprised
you left out Ira Fuchs and BITNET (some of those people have been
engaging in revisionist history in the IEEE Annals).